Jane or Tryphena (the Darker Mother)
- GIVN: Jane or Tryphena (the Darker Mother)
- Sex: F
- Born: Abt 1740 in Of, Mohawk River Valley, Albany, New York
- AFN: 10Z5-CV0
- _UID: F6CB847E2A0111DAB9B700A0CC5D9B651205
- Baptised LDS: 11 Aug 1994
- TEMP: PROVO 6 Dec 1994
- TEMP: PROVO
- Record last updated: 16 Sep 2014
- TIME: 22:08
I was just looking in Mary Lewis' notes that I had previously collected pertaining to her tribe lineage. I will pass it along to you as I have it and it may be of use to you.
I see from your last email that you have done some research in that direction. You may have seen this already. L
Ğuğ<http://1stnationstribes.tribe.net/thread/2873fe48-cded-4722-9fe1-729b512e6fc1>Ğ/uğ (1 July 2008):
"topic posted Fri, October 7, 2005 - 12:34 PM by offlineDano
Hi there.. Here is the task... I and a few realatives have discovered someone in our family tree we want to know much more about. The name listed is
"Josnorum Scoenonti - Running Deer". Born in around Lee, Berkshire County Massachusettes in the early/mid 1700's married to a "Charles Squawman". Some family think She may have been Mohawk, others don't believe Mohawk were in that precise area but think Moheegan (Mohican) is more likely. The name is probably anglified but as it is listed with a direct english translation Running Dear, I think that "Josnorum Scoenonti" is probably originates from a native word/words albeit the anglification may make it hard to identify. Does anyone have some dictionary resources they could loook up the words "running dear" in a dictionaries of Iriquois nation tribes? If so, I'd love the help.
Re: Help with translation of a name
Fri, October 7, 2005 - 1:27 PM
"After a little more geographical digging I tend to agree with my brother that thinks Mohican is more likely given the location of Lee/Stockbridge (homeland of The Stockbridge Munsee Tribe of Mohican Indians ) area and the dates 1700 to 1750... Not too many Mohican language resources I can find online.
So... revised question is anyone have Mohican laguage resources and can look at the words "Josnorum Scoenonti - Running Deer"
1 July 2008: Ğuğ<http://genforum.genealogy.com/hulet/messages/57.html>Ğ/uğ
Posted by: Jennifer Smith Date: July 24, 2001 at 06:20:46
In Reply to: Re: Looking for Sylvanus Hulet by Becky of 110
I too am related to Sylvanus Hulet through his son Charles.
I have that his wife Mary Lewis is the daughter of Francis Lewis, and Jane Tryphena Sqawman(also refered to as Darker-Mother), born 1740 Lee, Berskshire Mass. Her parents were Charles Sqawman born 1711 Mohawk River Valley Albany NY(prob. not the real name-Sqawman is an offensive term to Native American's meaning any white man who had relations with a Native American woman)who married Josnorum Scoenonti Running Deer born abt 1718 Mowhawk River Valley Albany NY....
here is where I run into trouble...I was having a problem finding any further back, so I contacted the head office for the Mowhak tribe, and was written a letter stating, the true meaning of the word Sqawman, and that Josnorum's name is probably also incorrect, because the Mohawk language contain's no C's, and suggests it was probably changed as the Mowhak tribe, she says she has never seen or heard of anyone called Running Deer...is it possible she may be from a different tribe, and was moved there, or that her name was changed?
If anyone has any further info please contact me
1 July 2008: Ğuğ<http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/massachusetts/index.htm>Ğ/uğ
"Massachusetts Indian Tribes
Mahican. The Mahican extended over most of Berkshire County, where they were represented mainly by the Housatonic or Stockbridge Indians. (See New York.)
Mahican Indian Tribe
Mahican. The name means "wolf." This tribe is not to be confused with the Mohegan of Connecticut (q. v.), though the names are mere varieties of the same word. Also called:
Akochakanen, meaning "Those who speak a strange tongue." (Iroquois name.)
Canoe Indians, so called by Whites.
Hikanagi or Nhikana, Shawnee name.
Loups, so called by the French.
Orunges, given by Chauvignerie (1736), in Schoolcraft (1851-57, vol. 3, p. 554).
River Indians, Dutch name.
Uragees, given by Colden, 1747.
Connections. The Mahican belonged to the Algonquian linguistic family, and spoke an r-dialect, their closest connections being with the southern New England Indians to the east.
Location. On both banks of the upper Hudson from Catskill Creek to Lake Champlain and eastward to include the valley of the Housatonic. (See also Connecticut, Massachusetts, Vermont, and Wisconsin.)
Mahican proper, in the northern part of the territory.
Mechkentowoon, on the west bank of Hudson River above Catskill Creek. Wawyachtonoc, in Dutchess and Columbia Counties and eastward to the Housatonic River in Connecticut.
Westenhuck (or Housatonic?), near Great Barrington, Mass.
Wiekagjoc, on the eastern bank of the Hudson River near Hudson.
Aepjin, at or near Schodac.
Kaunaumeek, in New York about halfway between Albany and Stockbridge, Mass.
Kenunckpacook, on the east side of Housatonic River a little above Scaticook. Maringoman's Castle, on Murderer's Creek, at Bloominggrove, Ulster County. Monemius, on Haver Island, in Hudson River near Cohoes Falls, Albany County. Nepaug, on Nepaug River, town of New Hartford, Litchfield County, Conn. Peantam, at Bantam Lake, Litchfield County, Conn.
Potic, west of Athens, Greene County.
Scaticook, 3 villages in Dutchess and Rensselaer Counties, and in Litchfield
County, Conn., the last on Housatonic River near the junction with Ten Mile River.
Wequadnack, near Sharon, Litchfield County, Conn.
Wiatiac, near Salisbury, Litchfield County, Conn.
Wiltmeet, on Esopus Creek, probably near Kingston.
Winooskeek, on Lake Champlain, probably at the mouth of Winooski River, Vt.
Wyantenuc, in Litchfield County, Conn.
History. The traditional point of origin of the Mahican was in the West. They were found in occupancy of the territory outlined above by the Dutch, and were then at war with the Mohawk who, in 1664, compelled them to move their capital from Schodac near Albany to the present Stockbridge. They gradually sold their: territory and in 1721 a band was on Kankakee River, Ind., while in 1730, a large body settled close to the Delaware and Munsee near Wyoming, Pa., afterward becoming merged with those tribes. In 1736 those in the Housatonic Valley were gathered into a mission at Stockbridge and were ever afterward known as Stockbridge Indians. In 1756 a large body of Mahican and Wappinger, along with Nanticoke and other people, settled in Broome and Tioga Counties under Iroquois protection. In 1788 another body of Indians drawn from New York, Connecticut, and Rhode Island, including Mahican, settled near the Stockbridges at Marshall, N. Y. The Stockbridge and Brotherton Indians later removed to Wisconsin, where they were probably joined by part at least of the band last mentioned. A few Mahican remained about their old home on Hudson River for some years after the Revolution but disappeared unnoticed.
Population. Mooney (1928) estimates that there were about 3,000 Mahican in 1600; the Stockbridges among the Iroquois numbered 300 in 1796, and 606 in 1923, including some Munsee. The census of 1910 gave 533 Stockbridges and 172 Brotherton. The census of 1930 indicated about 813.
Connection in which they have become noted. The Mahican tribe has probably attained more fame from its appearance in the title of Cooper's novel. "The Last of the Mohegans," than from any circumstance directly connected with its history. There is a village called Mohegan in the northern part of Westchester County, N. Y., and another, known as Mohican in Ashland County, Ohio, while an affluent of the Muskingum also bears the same name."
1 July 2008 Ğuğ<http://www.native-languages.org/mohican.htm>Ğ/uğ :
"People: The general term "Mohican" has been used to refer not only to the Mahicans and their kin the Wappingers, but also to six or seven other Indian tribes lumped together as Mohegans by early colonists. The confusion between these eastern tribes was worsened by James Fenimore Cooper's book "Last of the Mohicans," which incorrectly merged the Mahicans and Mohegans into a single, extinct Mohican tribe. In reality the Mahicans and Mohegans have never been the same tribe, and neither group is extinct. (Cooper may have been thinking of the Wappingers, who really had been destroyed as a distinct people by the time he wrote his book--the survivors were mostly absorbed into the Mahican tribe, where their descendents remain today.) The similarity between their names is due to coincidence and European mispronunciation--"Mahican" comes from the word Muheconneok, "from the waters that are never still" (the Hudson River), and "Mohegan" comes from the word Mahiingan, "wolf." Today there are about 3000 Mahican Indians in Wisconsin, where they were forced to emigrate, and many Mahican descendents scattered throughout New England.
History: The Mahicans, or Mohicans, were original natives of what is now New York state, along the banks of the Hudson River. Like most Indian tribes of New England, the Mohicans were devastated by warfare and European diseases during the early colonial period, then forced to leave their homelands by Dutch and British expansion. Some Mohicans sought refuge with neighboring tribes, including the Lenape and the Iroquois, but most resettled in Stockbridge, Massachusetts, where they came to be known as the Stockbridge Indian tribe. Soon the Stockbridge Mohicans were deported once again to Wisconsin, where they joined the Munsee Indians on a jointly held reservation. The Munsee and Mohican tribes remain together there to this day."
Father: A squaw man (Charles?)
Mother: Running Deer SCNONTÓ means Deer in Onondaga, can't find Running , b. Abt 1715 in Mohawk Village, Mohawk River Valley, New York, United States
Family 1: Francis Lewis, b. Abt 1737 in Lee, Berkshire, Massachusetts, United States
- Married: 1761 in Lee, Berkshire, Massachusetts, United States 6 Apr 1995 8 Nov 2008
- Mary "Polly" LewisPolly Lewis Young, b. 3 Apr 1763 in Lee, Berkshire, Massachusetts, United States
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